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Cantsaytoomuch (NZ) 2017

Trainer: - / -

Training Location: Cambridge

Race info

  • Flat Rating: 60
  • Steeple Rating: 0
  • Hurdle Rating: 0
  • Current Gear:
    • Approved Plates
    • Blinkers
    • Lugging Bit
    • Tongue Tie

Horse Details

7YO (ret) Bay Mare

  • Owner: T W Nicholson
  • Breeder: T W Nicholson
  • Sire: KEEPER (AUS) 1997
  • Dam: WAITUI PEARL (NZ) 2000
  • Foaling: 24 Sep 2017

Current Nominations

Current Fields

Performance stats

Recent starts
Form
  • 2X90X
1st up
  • 5-0-1
2nd up
  • 3-0-0
Fresh 30
  • 2-0-0
Fresh 90
  • 3-0-1

Sectionals

 
TRK
Time
First 400m
Last 800m
Last 600m
Last 400m
Last 200m
11-14
4 Jun 22
DAVE HOSKIN CARRIERS 1400
1400m
H10
1.29.76
0.26.55
0.50.22
0.38.07
0.26.24
0.13.29
9-9
1 Jun 22
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE
1300m
SYN
1.21.11
0.26.81
0.48.48
0.36.82
0.25.86
0.15.01
2-7
29 Oct 21
STELLA ARTOIS 1600
1600m
S7
1.39.77
0.26.24
0.48.97
0.36.81
0.25.01
0.13.06
3-12
13 Oct 21
GO RACING BUYING EUROPEAN STAYERS THIS MONTH 1550
1550m
SYN
1.33.08
0.24.66
0.47.96
0.36.19
0.24.47
0.12.82
11-14
3 Oct 21
BRENDON AND LYNN BRADLEY BAYLEYS COMMERCIAL 1400
1400m
S7
1.27.47
0.27.61
0.49.64
0.37.07
0.24.26
0.12.53
9-12
25 Sep 21
WAHAROA TRANSPORT CO. (1995) LTD 1400
1400m
H10
1.27.06
0.25.53
0.51.05
0.38.61
0.25.67
0.13.15
8-14
4 Sep 21
WAR DECREE 1200
1200m
S7
1.13.13
0.24.53
0.48.60
0.36.65
0.24.19
0.12.81
4-7
31 Jul 21
PROPERTY BROKERS TAUMARUNUI 3YO
1400m
H10
1.29.94
0.25.01
0.52.49
0.40.16
0.27.15
0.14.49
2-6
28 Jul 21
THE OAKS STUD 970
970m
SYN
0.55.07
0.23.80
0.43.81
0.32.80
0.22.50
0.11.52
4-10
10 Apr 21
PYRAMID TRUCKING 1400
1400m
S6
1.25.41
0.24.67
0.47.77
0.35.43
0.24.42
0.12.94
1-10
17 Mar 21
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE
1400m
G4
1.24.03
0.24.88
0.48.35
0.35.94
0.23.66
0.12.27
2-13
25 Feb 21
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE
1400m
G4
1.23.87
0.24.71
0.46.90
0.34.65
0.23.60
0.12.21
6-6
20 Feb 21
JR WEBB 1200
1200m
G4
1.12.49
0.26.28
0.46.21
0.34.66
0.23.27
0.12.04
10-11
23 Dec 20
ANCROFT STUD 1200
1200m
G4
1.12.52
0.24.66
0.47.86
0.36.20
0.23.90
0.12.49
5-8
12 Dec 20
DUNSTAN HORSE FEEDS 3YO PREMIER
1200m
G3
1.11.81
0.25.18
0.46.63
0.34.49
0.22.83
0.11.54
1-6
24 Nov 20
MDN CATCHWEIGHT 800 - HEAT 12
800m
SYN
-
-
-
-
-
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Career stats

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In-depth racing review

11-14 4 Jun 22 1400m  DAVE HOSKIN CARRIERS 1400 View video › $30,000
WAVE  Heavy10 Rating 65 Benchmark* 5th otr,hmp wdr cn,urged,no extra, 1.29.76, 600m - 0.38.07 Ryan Elliot $0
  • 1.28.02, Flat
  • 11.1L
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $24.50
  • Rtg: 61 (-1)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 55.0
  • 1: Hooks, 55.0
  • 2: Queen Of Spades, 57.5
  • 1 LEN:LONG HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Unbalanced when contacted 350m
9-9 1 Jun 22 1300m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE View video › $12,000
CSYN  Synthetic Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 9th 3w cvr to 600,never in hunt, 1.21.11, 600m - 0.36.82 Ryan Elliot $240
  • 1.16.30, Flat
  • 28.5L
  • Bar: 9
  • SP: $9.20
  • Rtg: 62 (-1)
  • Wgt: 58.5
  • Car: 58.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Tivaan Warrior, 60.0
  • 2: Dear Oh Dear, 57.5
  • 2 3/4 LEN:3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Raced wide without cover throughout.
2-7 29 Oct 21 1600m  STELLA ARTOIS 1600 View video › $12,000
EGMN  Soft7 Rating 65 Benchmark* , 1.39.77, 600m - 0.36.81 Ryan Elliot $2,160
  • 1.39.66, Flat
  • .8L
  • Bar: 7
  • SP: $0.00
  • Rtg: 61 (+1)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Reliable Miss, 54.0
  • 3: All That Jazz, 54.0
  • 3/4 LEN:SHORT HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
3-12 13 Oct 21 1550m  GO RACING BUYING EUROPEAN STAYERS THIS MONTH 1550 View video › $12,000
CSYN  Synthetic Rating 65 Benchmark* Hndy,3rd otr 1000,chl cnr,fght on, 1.33.08, 600m - 0.36.19 Ryan Elliot $1,080
  • 1.32.71, Flat
  • 2.5L
  • Bar: 10
  • SP: $6.00
  • Rtg: 61
  • Wgt: 56.0
  • Car: 56.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Floral Belt, 55.5
  • 2: Into The Deep, 58.0
  • LONG HEAD:2 1/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
11-14 3 Oct 21 1400m  BRENDON AND LYNN BRADLEY BAYLEYS COMMERCIAL 1400 View video › $30,000
TROA  Soft7 Rating 65 Benchmark* 5th 3w cvr,wdr cnr,no danger, 1.27.47, 600m - 0.37.07 Ryan Elliot $0
  • 1.26.17, Flat
  • 7.6L
  • Bar: 9
  • SP: $20.70
  • Rtg: 62 (-1)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Corinne, 56.5
  • 2: Four Queens, 57.0
  • HEAD:1 1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
9-12 25 Sep 21 1400m  WAHAROA TRANSPORT CO. (1995) LTD 1400 View video › $30,000
MATA  Heavy10 Rating 65 Benchmark* 6th 3w cvr,tite cnr,no room strait, 1.27.06, 600m - 0.38.61 Darren Danis $450
  • 1.26.00, Flat
  • 6.9L
  • Bar: 9
  • SP: $15.20
  • Rtg: 63 (-1)
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Fleurgundy, 55.0
  • 2: Thebeastfortheeast (IRE), 59.5
  • 1 1/4 LEN:HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Briefly steadied to avoid heels passing the 200m.
8-14 4 Sep 21 1200m  WAR DECREE 1200 View video › $30,000
WAIK  Soft7 Rating 65 Benchmark* 2nd otr to cnr,chal,just battled, 1.13.13, 600m - 0.36.65 Ryan Elliot $450
  • 1.12.27, Flat
  • 5.3L
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $19.60
  • Rtg: 64 (-1)
  • Wgt: 58.5
  • Car: 58.5
  • LWD: 55.0
  • 1: Real Slim Tradie, 59.5
  • 2: Diamond Girl, 57.5
  • 3/4 LEN:SHORT NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
4-7 31 Jul 21 1400m  PROPERTY BROKERS TAUMARUNUI 3YO View video › $25,000
ROTO  Heavy10 3YO SW+P Soon led,tkld cnr,hdd,no extra, 1.29.94, 600m - 0.40.16 Elen Nicholas $1,250
  • 1.28.55, Flat
  • 8.6L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $2.40
  • Rtg: 64
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 52.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Black Forest, 58.5
  • 2: Chillax, 58.5
  • 2 1/2 LEN:3 3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
2-6 28 Jul 21 970m  THE OAKS STUD 970 View video › $10,000
CSYN  Synthetic Rating 65 Benchmark* Disp pace inr to cnr,fght on well, 0.55.07, 600m - 0.32.80 Craig Grylls $1,500
  • 0.54.81, Flat
  • 1.8L
  • Bar: 1
  • SP: $3.90
  • Rtg: 63 (+1)
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 55.5
  • 1: Bounty, 59.0
  • 3: Darci Palmer, 60.0
  • 1 3/4 LEN:LONG NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
4-10 10 Apr 21 1400m  PYRAMID TRUCKING 1400 View video › $25,000
TROA  Soft6 3YO SW+P 2nd otr to cnr,,battled on gamely, 1.25.41, 600m - 0.35.43 Ryan Elliot $1,250
  • 1.25.18, Flat
  • 1.6L
  • Bar: 8
  • SP: $11.00
  • Rtg: 63
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 55.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Side By Side, 56.5
  • 2: Rose 'N' Power, 55.5
  • 1 LEN:1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
1-10 17 Mar 21 1400m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE View video › $10,000
MATA  Good4 MDN F&M Disp pace,led 800,went clr cnr,easy, 1.24.03, 600m - 0.35.94 Ryan Elliot $5,400
  • 1.24.03, Flat
  • 4.0L
  • Bar: 8
  • SP: $5.10
  • Rtg: 54 (+9)
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 57.0
  • 2: Night Vision, 57.0
  • 3: Bendermerry, 57.0
  • 4 LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
2-13 25 Feb 21 1400m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE View video › $10,000
COUN  Good4 MDN 3YOF Soon ld,kikd clr 500,cght last 50m, 1.23.87, 600m - 0.34.65 Ryan Elliot $1,500
  • 1.23.84, Flat
  • .2L
  • Bar: 13
  • SP: $12.50
  • Rtg: 52 (+2)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Stringline, 56.5
  • 3: Night Vision, 56.5
  • SHORT NECK:1 3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers (1st time), Tongue Tie
6-6 20 Feb 21 1200m  JR WEBB 1200 View video › $25,000
AUCK  Good4 3YO SW+P Slow,3bk inr,out,never emerged, 1.12.49, 600m - 0.34.66 Lisa Allpress $375
  • 1.10.52, Flat
  • 13.4L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $23.90
  • Rtg: 53 (-1)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 54.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Babylon Berlin (AUS), 55.5
  • 2: Contribute, 54.0
  • 3 LEN:1 3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Slow to begin.
10-11 23 Dec 20 1200m  ANCROFT STUD 1200 View video › $10,000
MATA  Good4 MDN 3YO Hndy,wd,3rd 3w 800,faded,tuff run, 1.12.52, 600m - 0.36.20 Sam Weatherley $200
  • 1.11.34, Flat
  • 8.0L
  • Bar: 8
  • SP: $13.40
  • Rtg: 54 (-1)
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 55.5
  • LWD: 55.5
  • 1: Navalha (AUS), 57.5
  • 2: Lady Telena (AUS), 55.5
  • LONG NECK:3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Raced wide without cover for the majority of the race.
5-8 12 Dec 20 1200m Premier Meeting Premier MeetingDUNSTAN HORSE FEEDS 3YO PREMIER View video › $30,000
WAIK  Good3 3YO SW+P Trld,akw 900,out 400,out,btld away, 1.11.81, 600m - 0.34.49 Masa Hashizume $600
  • 1.10.93, Flat
  • 5.8L
  • Bar: 1
  • SP: $41.70
  • Rtg: 47 (+7)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 51.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Brando, 57.5
  • 2: De La Terre, 58.5
  • 1/2 LEN:1 1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Ducked outwards 900m, after being corrected made contact with running rail 850m
1-6 24 Nov 20 800m  MDN Catchweight 800 - Heat 12 View video › $0
CSYN  Synthetic MDN , 0.47.58 Wiremu Pinn $0
  • 0.47.58, Flat
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $0.00
  • Rtg: 
  • Wgt: 0.0
  • Car: 0.0
  • LWD: 0.0
  • 2: Let's Do This, 0.0
  • 3: Bella Volaire, 0.0
  • 3/4 LEN:1 3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit

Craig Grylls

  • Age: 34
  • Location: Waikato
  • Current Premiership Place Flat: 1
  • Rides since last win: 4

Current Declarations ›

With Horse

  • Starts 1
  • Wins 0
  • Place 1
  • S/R 0.0

With Trainer

  • Starts 3
  • Wins 0
  • Place 2
  • S/R 0.0

This Going (Synthetic)

  • Starts 207
  • Wins 32
  • Place 48
  • S/R 6.5

On Course (Cambridge Synthetic)

  • Starts 191
  • Wins 30
  • Place 42
  • S/R 6.4

Jockey Performance Stats

Recent rides
  • 12376
  All 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th U Prizemoney
Career 12119 1223 1134 1138 1123 1081 6420 $30,807,472
G & L 1080 100 80 90 106 77 627 $13,440,620
2024/25 93 17 11 9 7 7 42 $522,620
2023/24 696 96 77 86 74 59 304 $5,225,253
2022/23 861 117 102 91 84 72 395 $3,770,005
2021/22 726 92 77 62 65 74 356 $3,003,715
2020/21 802 83 95 85 60 71 408 $2,676,756
2019/20 504 54 54 42 67 48 239 $1,232,200
2018/19 386 51 42 33 35 50 175 $1,559,983
2017/18 5 0 3 0 1 0 1 $23,860
2016/17 573 64 62 43 63 47 294 $1,466,098
2015/16 608 58 49 52 63 55 331 $1,066,645
2014/15 688 72 54 81 57 50 374 $1,440,670
2013/14 735 78 59 67 76 67 388 $1,638,060
2012/13 554 54 51 52 44 56 297 $691,870
2011/12 747 62 55 68 62 63 437 $906,488
2010/11 835 56 75 75 67 77 485 $948,149
2009/10 821 72 70 53 56 83 487 $1,297,021
2008/09 792 63 56 63 84 63 463 $1,291,975
2007/08 680 52 63 75 61 57 372 $1,028,435
2006/07 655 57 45 72 53 52 376 $688,711
2005/06 358 25 34 29 44 30 196 $328,962

Karen Nicholson

  • Location: Cambridge
  • Horses in Training: 6

With Jockey (Craig Grylls)

  • Starts 3
  • Wins 0
  • Place 2
  • S/R 0.0

This Going (Synthetic)

  • Starts 10
  • Wins 1
  • Place 4
  • S/R 10.0

On Course (Cambridge Synthetic)

  • Starts 10
  • Wins 1
  • Place 4
  • S/R 10.0
Starts Since Last Win 28

Trainer Performance Stats

Recent starts
  • 30226
  All 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th U Prizemoney
Career 241 21 28 26 29 21 116 $313,243
G & L 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 $3,000
2024/25 5 0 2 1 0 0 2 $8,560
2023/24 10 0 3 0 2 1 4 $19,695
2022/23 5 0 0 0 1 1 3 $2,705
2021/22 28 3 2 4 2 2 15 $59,700
2020/21 35 5 7 3 6 1 13 $51,175
2019/20 24 3 0 4 3 1 13 $37,575
2018/19 32 4 1 3 3 2 19 $39,923
2017/18 30 2 4 1 6 3 14 $37,935
2016/17 11 2 0 0 1 0 8 $11,825
2015/16 30 1 4 6 2 7 10 $21,350
2014/15 11 1 4 1 2 1 2 $18,400
2013/14 11 0 1 2 0 2 6 $3,150
2012/13 9 0 0 1 1 0 7 $1,250
View Cantsaytoomuch (NZ) 2017's full breeding profile ›