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Our Kismet (NZ) 2009

Trainer: - / -

Training Location: -

Race info

  • Flat Rating: 57
  • Steeple Rating: 0
  • Hurdle Rating: 0
  • Current Gear:
    • Blinkers
    • Concussion Plates
    • Lugging Bit
    • Tongue Tie

Horse Details

16 (ret) Bay Mare

  • Owner: G D & Mrs M L Witters
  • Breeder: Bloodstock Resources Ltd & D A Thomas
  • Sire: ZABEEL (NZ) 1986
  • Dam: MINELLI (NZ) 2002
  • Foaling: 26 Aug 2009

Current Nominations

Current Fields

Performance stats

Recent starts
Form
  • 4530X
1st up
  • 9-0-4
2nd up
  • 4-1-2
Fresh 30
  • 3-0-1
Fresh 90
  • 6-0-3

Sectionals

 
TRK
Time
First 400m
Last 800m
Last 600m
Last 400m
Last 200m
12-13
17 Jul 15
FRIENDS OF FOOTBALL 2000
2000m
H10
-
-
-
-
-
-
3-7
1 Jul 15
GILTRAP AGRIZONE ROTORUA 1400
1400m
H9
-
-
-
-
-
-
5-14
17 Jun 15
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE
1600m
H8
-
-
-
-
-
-
4-11
23 May 15
ELLERSLIE EVENT CENTRE 1400
1400m
H10
-
-
-
-
-
-
6-13
6 May 15
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE
1400m
S7
-
-
-
-
-
-
13-13
7 Mar 15
NOVOTEL AUCKLAND ELLERSLIE 2100
2100m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-5
18 Feb 15
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE 1600
1600m
G4
-
-
-
-
-
-
4-9
23 Jan 15
NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE 1600
1600m
G4
-
-
-
-
-
-
12-13
6 Jan 15
COWLEY'S HIRE CENTRE 1400
1400m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-10
14 Nov 14
SEAWEED SOLUTIONS.CO.NZ R65 1400 BENCHMARK
1400m
S5
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-16
15 Oct 14
BATTERSBY FUNERAL SERVICES 1400
1400m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-11
2 Jul 14
VIVID COMPUTERS LTD 1600
1600m
H10
-
-
-
-
-
-
7-12
14 Jun 14
PACIFIC FORD RANGER 1200
1200m
S6
-
-
-
-
-
-
9-14
21 May 14
LION RED 1200
1200m
G4
-
-
-
-
-
-
7-13
30 Apr 14
WYNYARD WOOD 1400
1400m
S6
-
-
-
-
-
-
5-11
4 Apr 14
JUDGE HOUSE OF ALE 1200
1200m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
7-7
3 Jan 14
ADAMS TRIMMER INSURANCE 1600
1600m
G4
-
-
-
-
-
-
9-16
14 Dec 13
TE RAPA NEW WORLD PREMIER
1400m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
7-12
23 Nov 13
GRAEME THOMSON ANTIQUE JEWELLERY 1400
1400m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
1-11
11 Nov 13
MARKOVINA VINEYARD ESTATE 1200
1200m
G4
1.10.66
-
-
-
-
-
4-12
23 Oct 13
DONAGHYS PROMONENSIN 1200
1200m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
4-10
20 Jul 13
HUBANDS HEAT PUMPS & AIRCONDITIONING 1400
1400m
S5
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-12
29 Jun 13
THE NORTHERN ADVOCATE 1400
1400m
S6
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-14
12 Jun 13
COWLEYS HIRE CENTRE 1200
1200m
S5
-
-
-
-
-
-
12-12
6 Mar 13
THE NEW ZEALAND HERALD 1200
1200m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
3-9
7 Feb 13
MDN CATCHWEIGHT 1000 - HEAT 13
1000m
G3
-
-
-
-
-
-
3-9
17 Oct 12
THE AUSSIE BUTCHER 1200
1200m
G4
-
-
-
-
-
-
3-7
2 Oct 12
MDN 3YO CATCHWEIGHT 1000 - HEAT 17
1000m
S5
-
-
-
-
-
-
2-9
12 Apr 12
2YO CATCHWEIGHT 800 - HEAT 2
800m
S
-
-
-
-
-
-

Career stats

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In-depth racing review

12-13 17 Jul 15 2000m  FRIENDS OF FOOTBALL 2000 View video › $7,000
AVON  Heavy10 Rating 65 Benchmark* 6bk inr,bk und rd tn,no danger Alysha Collett $0
  • 2.12.10, Flat
  • 33.1L
  • Bar: 10
  • SP: $5.40
  • Rtg: 58 (-1)
  • Wgt: 54.5
  • Car: 54.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Gentil Tonton (IRE), 58.0
  • 2: Labels, 54.5
  • 4 1/2 LEN:5 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Crowded on jumping away having to steady then over-raced when being restrained in the early stages and was not persevered over the final 100mtrs. When questioned Rider was unable to offer any reason other than the mare had over-raced at its first run over 2000 metres this campaign.
3-7 1 Jul 15 1400m  GILTRAP AGRIZONE ROTORUA 1400 View video › $7,000
ROTO  Heavy9 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 6th otr,5th tn,solid finish Alysha Collett $700
  • 1.27.80, Flat
  • 4.5L
  • Bar: 7
  • SP: $4.20
  • Rtg: 58
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 55.5
  • 1: Goodn'targ, 56.0
  • 2: Manaia Rose, 55.5
  • 4 LEN:1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
5-14 17 Jun 15 1600m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE View video › $12,000
EBOP  Heavy8 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 14th outr,6th wdr tn, btld on well Michael McNab $300
  • 1.42.20, Flat
  • 3.2L
  • Bar: 12
  • SP: $15.40
  • Rtg: 58
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 55.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Ana, 57.0
  • 2: Sheez Torkin, 55.5
  • HEAD:1 1/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
4-11 23 May 15 1400m  ELLERSLIE EVENT CENTRE 1400 View video › $17,500
AUCK  Heavy10 Rating 65 Benchmark* 11th inr,wdr tn, btld on well Michael Coleman $825
  • 1.33.04, Flat
  • 10.1L
  • Bar: 1
  • SP: $14.70
  • Rtg: 59 (-1)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 54.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Spoke To Carlo (GB), 57.0
  • 2: Curli, 52.0
  • 3 1/4 LEN:2 1/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
6-13 6 May 15 1400m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE View video › $12,000
MATA  Soft7 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 4 bk innr,out tn, btld on well Rory Hutchings $0
  • 1.24.15, Flat
  • 1.9L
  • Bar: 1
  • SP: $14.50
  • Rtg: 59
  • Wgt: 56.0
  • Car: 56.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Ysabella Brave, 56.0
  • 2: Sakology, 58.0
  • SHORT NECK:LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
13-13 7 Mar 15 2100m Premier Meeting Premier MeetingNOVOTEL AUCKLAND ELLERSLIE 2100 View video › $30,000
AUCK  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 12th innr,never emerged Michael Coleman $0
  • 2.11.45, Flat
  • 16.4L
  • Bar: 13
  • SP: $12.20
  • Rtg: 61 (-2)
  • Wgt: 55.0
  • Car: 55.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Diesel, 54.0
  • 2: Team Pete, 54.0
  • NECK:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: blundered leaving barriers, bumped 400m
2-5 18 Feb 15 1600m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE 1600 View video › $12,000
AVON  Good4 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 2nd outr,chal tn,outfin last 50m Michael Coleman $2,400
  • 1.37.79, Flat
  • 1.5L
  • Bar: 4
  • SP: $7.20
  • Rtg: 60 (+1)
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 56.0
  • 1: Snow Petal (AUS), 59.0
  • 3: De Kensington Oval, 57.0
  • 1 1/2 LEN:1 1/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Concussion Plates (1st time), Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Crowded on jumping away then raced keenly through the early to middle stages on a slow tempo.
4-9 23 Jan 15 1600m  NZB INSURANCE PEARL SERIES RACE 1600 View video › $12,000
AVON  Good4 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 3bk inr,into open 300,btld on Michael Coleman $600
  • 1.34.82, Flat
  • 2.8L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $6.30
  • Rtg: 60
  • Wgt: 57.5
  • Car: 57.5
  • LWD: 55.5
  • 1: Hvala, 57.5
  • 2: Footsie, 58.5
  • LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
12-13 6 Jan 15 1400m  COWLEY'S HIRE CENTRE 1400 View video › $7,000
WHAN  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 11th innr, never emerged Samantha Collett $0
  • 1.22.85, Flat
  • 10.7L
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $7.00
  • Rtg: 62 (-2)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Charlie Farley, 55.0
  • 2: Snow Petal (AUS), 56.5
  • 1 3/4 LEN:1/2 HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Underwent a post-race veterinary examination after finishing well back which could find no obvious abnormalities.
2-10 14 Nov 14 1400m  SEAWEED SOLUTIONS.CO.NZ R65 1400 BENCHMARK View video › $7,000
DARG  Soft5 Rating 65 Benchmark* Fractious,slow,dist 5th,big finish Samantha Collett $1,400
  • 1.24.46, Flat
  • 3.0L
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $4.40
  • Rtg: 61 (+1)
  • Wgt: 57.0
  • Car: 57.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Stand Your Ground, 58.5
  • 3: Anaheim, 55.5
  • 3 LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Had been fractious in the barriers beginning very awkwardly losing ground then shifted out rounding the final turn near the 350mtrs, the Mare required veterinary attention a injury to the near hind leg.
2-16 15 Oct 14 1400m  BATTERSBY FUNERAL SERVICES 1400 View video › $7,000
AVON  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 6th inr, out tn, strong finish Samantha Collett $1,400
  • 1.22.74, Flat
  • .9L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $19.50
  • Rtg: 59 (+2)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 54.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Amadeus, 57.5
  • 3: Sacred Wins, 58.5
  • LEN:1 1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Began awkwardly. Had difficulty obtaining clear racing room and had to shift outwards at 300m to improve.
2-11 2 Jul 14 1600m  VIVID COMPUTERS LTD 1600 View video › $12,000
AVON  Heavy10 Rating 65 Benchmark Fillies and Mares* 4th middle,chal 350,fght on gamely Michael Coleman $2,400
  • 1.45.32, Flat
  • .9L
  • Bar: 6
  • SP: $13.90
  • Rtg: 57 (+2)
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 55.5
  • LWD: 54.5
  • 1: Moon Tide, 58.5
  • 3: Rivertaine Coup, 58.5
  • 3/4 LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Contacted start
7-12 14 Jun 14 1200m  PACIFIC FORD RANGER 1200 View video › $15,000
WHAN  Soft6 Rating 65 Benchmark* 3 bk innr,out undr rd 300, btld Michael Coleman $0
  • 1.10.58, Flat
  • 5.3L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $8.20
  • Rtg: 58 (-1)
  • Wgt: 54.5
  • Car: 54.5
  • LWD: 54.5
  • 1: To Be Sure, 58.0
  • 2: Merrily, 56.5
  • 3 1/4 LEN:LONG NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Blinkers (1st time), Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Shifted in abruptly on jumping away.
9-14 21 May 14 1200m  LION RED 1200 View video › $8,000
WHAN  Good4 Rating 75 Benchmark 4 bk inr to tn, boxed on tite room Kelly Myers $0
  • 1.10.19, Flat
  • 3.1L
  • Bar: 7
  • SP: $20.10
  • Rtg: 59 (-1)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 54.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Elysium, 54.0
  • 2: Clubs Choice, 53.5
  • 1/2 LEN:HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Became awkwardly placed on heels near the 100m when laying in.
7-13 30 Apr 14 1400m  WYNYARD WOOD 1400 View video › $7,000
AVON  Soft6 Rating 65 Benchmark* 6th outr to tn, btld away Danielle Johnson $0
  • 1.25.46, Flat
  • 3.7L
  • Bar: 8
  • SP: $8.40
  • Rtg: 60 (-1)
  • Wgt: 55.0
  • Car: 55.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Lady Sayyida, 55.5
  • 2: To Be Sure, 57.0
  • NECK:LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Began awkwardly. Approaching the 400m had to steady when awkwardly placed on heels
5-11 4 Apr 14 1200m  JUDGE HOUSE OF ALE 1200 View video › $7,000
WHAN  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 5bk inr,weaved,gd fin,tight late Sam Spratt $175
  • 1.10.06, Flat
  • 1.7L
  • Bar: 2
  • SP: $7.20
  • Rtg: 60
  • Wgt: 54.5
  • Car: 54.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Clubs Choice, 55.0
  • 2: Huckleberry Flyer, 57.5
  • 3/4 LEN:SHORT NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Began awkwardly.
7-7 3 Jan 14 1600m  ADAMS TRIMMER INSURANCE 1600 View video › $7,000
WHAN  Good4 Rating 65 Benchmark* 2nd otr to 400,chal,faded 250m Matthew Cameron $0
  • 1.35.14, Flat
  • 6.6L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $4.80
  • Rtg: 61 (-1)
  • Wgt: 55.0
  • Car: 55.0
  • LWD: 54.5
  • 1: Shades Of Gold, 54.5
  • 2: Radar, 58.0
  • 1 3/4 LEN:3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
9-16 14 Dec 13 1400m Premier Meeting Premier MeetingTE RAPA NEW WORLD PREMIER View video › $20,000
WAIK  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 8th outr,out tn, plugged away Mark Du Plessis $0
  • 1.21.56, Flat
  • 7.1L
  • Bar: 9
  • SP: $27.50
  • Rtg: 62 (-1)
  • Wgt: 55.5
  • Car: 55.5
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Procurement, 54.5
  • 2: Stella's Honour, 54.5
  • 2 1/2 LEN:SHORT HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: began awkwardly, hampered 900m
7-12 23 Nov 13 1400m Premier Meeting Premier MeetingGRAEME THOMSON ANTIQUE JEWELLERY 1400 View video › $20,000
COUN  Good3 Rating 65 Benchmark* 9th otr to tn,widest 400,no finish Derek Nolan $0
  • 1.24.12, Flat
  • 7.9L
  • Bar: 6
  • SP: $7.20
  • Rtg: 63 (-1)
  • Wgt: 56.0
  • Car: 56.0
  • LWD: 55.0
  • 1: Golden Downs (AUS), 58.0
  • 2: Team Pete, 55.0
  • 3 LEN:SHORT NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
1-11 11 Nov 13 1200m  MARKOVINA VINEYARD ESTATE 1200 View video › $7,000
AVON  Good4 MDN F&M 3 bk innr,4th 300,drove hard late, 1.10.66 Jason Collett $4,375
  • 1.10.66, Flat
  • .1L
  • Bar: 1
  • SP: $2.50
  • Rtg: 54 (+9)
  • Wgt: 57.5
  • Car: 57.5
  • LWD: 56.0
  • 2: Felicity Hall, 57.5
  • 3: Dark And Stormy, 56.0
  • HEAD:1 1/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Stumbled shortly after jumping away.
4-12 23 Oct 13 1200m  DONAGHYS ProMonensin 1200 View video › $12,000
TROA  Good3 MDN F&M 11th innr,loomd inr 150, btld well Derek Nolan $600
  • 1.11.90, Flat
  • .6L
  • Bar: 12
  • SP: $4.90
  • Rtg: 54
  • Wgt: 57.5
  • Car: 57.5
  • LWD: 55.0
  • 1: Matagouri, 55.0
  • 2: Blossom Queen, 57.5
  • HEAD:HEAD
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
4-10 20 Jul 13 1400m  HUBANDS HEAT PUMPS & AIRCONDITIONING 1400 View video › $12,500
WHAN  Soft5 MDN Crw,slow,8th otr,clsr wdr 400,game Opie Bosson $625
  • 1.25.21, Flat
  • 1.3L
  • Bar: 6
  • SP: $2.60
  • Rtg: 54
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Rulaline, 56.5
  • 2: Piazzetta, 58.5
  • NOSE:1 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Crowded 1300m losing ground.
2-12 29 Jun 13 1400m  THE NORTHERN ADVOCATE 1400 View video › $12,500
WHAN  Soft6 MDN 12th otr,clsr 500,strong finish Rory Hutchings $2,500
  • 1.25.57, Flat
  • 1.3L
  • Bar: 7
  • SP: $2.70
  • Rtg: 52 (+2)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Brahma Queen, 55.5
  • 3: Hennessy Black, 58.5
  • 1 1/4 LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
  • Stipe Comment: Forced wider on the track 1200m also held up early in the final straight.
2-14 12 Jun 13 1200m  COWLEYS HIRE CENTRE 1200 View video › $7,000
WHAN  Soft5 MDN 5th innr,out 250, strong late fin Rory Hutchings $1,400
  • 1.11.05, Flat
  • .8L
  • Bar: 9
  • SP: $10.20
  • Rtg: 50 (+2)
  • Wgt: 56.5
  • Car: 56.5
  • LWD: 56.5
  • 1: Airman, 58.5
  • 3: Clubs Choice, 56.5
  • 3/4 LEN:1/2 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit, Tongue Tie
12-12 6 Mar 13 1200m Premier Meeting Premier MeetingTHE NEW ZEALAND HERALD 1200 View video › $20,000
AUCK  Good3 MDN Kn 8th 3w cvr, wknd,heart prob Andrew Calder $0
  • 1.11.61, Flat
  • 22.5L
  • Bar: 3
  • SP: $7.10
  • Rtg: 51 (-1)
  • Wgt: 56.0
  • Car: 56.0
  • LWD: 56.0
  • 1: Twilight Dragon, 58.0
  • 2: Statham, 58.0
  • SHORT NECK:3 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Lugging Bit, Nose Band (1st time), Tongue Tie (1st time)
  • Stipe Comment: Steadied when crowded shortly after the start and over-raced early and middle stages having to be restrained of heels, disappointing post race vet exam reveald cardiac arrhythmia will be required to trial and produce a clear ECG prior to racing again.
3-9 7 Feb 13 1000m  MDN Catchweight 1000 - Heat 13 View video › $0
PAER  Good3 MDN Andrew Calder $0
  • 0.59.85, Flat
  • Bar: 2
  • SP: $0.00
  • Rtg: 51
  • Wgt: 0.0
  • Car: 0.0
  • LWD: 0.0
  • 1: One Cool Message, 0.0
  • 2: Revenge, 0.0
  • 1/2 LEN:1 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit
3-9 17 Oct 12 1200m  THE AUSSIE BUTCHER 1200 View video › $8,000
WHAN  Good4 MDN 7th outr,wdst 300, solid finish Andrew Calder $800
  • 1.10.44, Flat
  • 1.3L
  • Bar: 7
  • SP: $18.10
  • Rtg: 45 (+6)
  • Wgt: 54.0
  • Car: 54.0
  • LWD: 54.0
  • 1: Rayners Lane, 56.0
  • 2: Bassaleg, 54.0
  • 1/2 LEN:3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear: Approved Plates, Lugging Bit
3-7 2 Oct 12 1000m  MDN 3YO Catchweight 1000 - Heat 17 View video › $0
WHAN  Soft5 MDN 3YO Andrew Calder $0
  • 0.60.77, Flat
  • Bar: 5
  • SP: $0.00
  • Rtg: 45
  • Wgt: 0.0
  • Car: 0.0
  • LWD: 0.0
  • 1: Stars Of Jiro, 0.0
  • 2: Thebestofyou, 0.0
  • 1 LEN:NECK
  • Raceday Gear:
2-9 12 Apr 12 800m  2YO Catchweight 800 - Heat 2 View video › $0
EBOP  Soft 2YO Andrew Calder $0
  • 0.47.43, Flat
  • Bar: 6
  • SP: $0.00
  • Rtg: 
  • Wgt: 0.0
  • Car: 0.0
  • LWD: 0.0
  • 1: Gemini, 0.0
  • 3: Mutt Williams, 0.0
  • 3 LEN:1 3/4 LEN
  • Raceday Gear:
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